Reform is an independent think-tank aiming to improve the way public services are delivered. They have recently published a report called “A design diagnosis: reinvigorating the primary care estate” and, in this episode, Ben talks to two of the authors of that report, Maisie Borrows and Daniel El-Gamry about their findings, the role of STPs in development of the estate, concerns about funding and some of the key lessons they have learnt.